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Limited Fertility?

A friend of mine has 3 kids: a 5 year old boy (conceived naturally), and one year old twin girls (conceived via IVF). She came over yesterday under the guise of bringing me some soup (she makes amazing soups, so I never turn her down when she offers soup) to tell me that she's expecting her (dear heavens!) fourth child in July. Conceived naturally. Complete and total "whoops, how did that happen?" baby. She, in fact, isn't even certain of the due date, because she wasn't paying attention to when she ovulated and besides, she's still nursing twins, so who woulda thunk it?

She was somewhat nervous about telling me, given that she went to the same fertility clinic that I go to and she knows how hard it all can be. I told her I really, for the most part, don't work that way. I don't believe there is a limited amount of fertility in this world. Just because another woman gets pregnant doesn't mean there's one less chance for me, right?

Wow, she said. "What a great attitude, because I know when I was going through Shady Hell, every time someone told me they were expecting, I just thought to myself: 'die, bitch, die!'" I almost fell over laughing. She's a very religious woman. Extremely intelligent. A doctor. Very logical. Rarely emotional. It was completely out of character, but oh-so-funny!

I spent half of today trying to find out why my doctor hadn’t received the results of my thrombophilia panel yet. Eventually I got word from Lab Corp that yes, the tests had been run, and gosh… the results are in the system, they can’t figure out why my doctor can’t access them, and no they can’t tell me the results over the phone, but they’ll put them in the mail to me. I called my nurse back and she checked and *miraculously* the results are in the system. Amazing!

Right, so she wants Dr. Amazing to take a look at the results, because two came back elevated JUST THE TEENSIEST BIT. But so teensey that it probably doesn’t matter, but it’s his call to make. Sort of like me and varicella… I’m JUST SHY of immune levels… now I’m JUST SHY of not having a thrombophilia. Yeah. Um… Neither of those really help me. At any rate, it doesn’t matter, since all they’ll do is put me on baby aspirin if it turns out to be an issue. And well… actually if it’s not an issue, I might ask if I can take the baby aspirin anyway, because, you know? It might actually help my migraines (I took baby aspirin every day until I started trying to get pregnant four years ago… since I’ve got a heart issue that mandates that I should take an anticoagulant or aspirin, and since the heart problem can actually lead to migraines… I did find that being on the aspirin at least reduced the severity, if not the frequency of my migraines).

Oh, and I did POAS and it was faintly positive. Even though, you know, it means nothing.

It’s Official

I woke up in the middle of the night throwing up. Hey, maybe this is a pregnancy symptom…. ??

JUST KIDDING!

It’s Official

I woke up in the middle of the night throwing up. Hey, maybe this is a pregnancy symptom…. ??

JUST KIDDING!

I spent half of today trying to find out why my doctor hadn't received the results of my thrombophilia panel yet. Eventually I got word from Lab Corp that yes, the tests had been run, and gosh… the results are in the system, they can't figure out why my doctor can't access them, and no they can't tell me the results over the phone, but they'll put them in the mail to me. I called my nurse back and she checked and *miraculously* the results are in the system. Amazing!

Right, so she wants Dr. Amazing to take a look at the results, because two came back elevated JUST THE TEENSIEST BIT. But so teensey that it probably doesn't matter, but it's his call to make. Sort of like me and varicella… I'm JUST SHY of immune levels… now I'm JUST SHY of not having a thrombophilia. Yeah. Um… Neither of those really help me. At any rate, it doesn't matter, since all they'll do is put me on baby aspirin if it turns out to be an issue. And well… actually if it's not an issue, I might ask if I can take the baby aspirin anyway, because, you know? It might actually help my migraines (I took baby aspirin every day until I started trying to get pregnant four years ago… since I've got a heart issue that mandates that I should take an anticoagulant or aspirin, and since the heart problem can actually lead to migraines… I did find that being on the aspirin at least reduced the severity, if not the frequency of my migraines).

Oh, and I did POAS and it was faintly positive. Even though, you know, it means nothing.

IUI #5

Not having many positive thoughts about this morning’s IUI. S woke up wretching this morning, having apparently caught J’s stomach virus. Poor thing. We almost called the whole thing off, but S said if I could drive him, he’d do his best. And do his best, he did. Smallest count on record (6.5 million as opposed to last time which was closer to 30 million), but Dr. Amazing said anything over 5 million is great.

When we first arrived at Shady Hell, I thought that Dr. Evil was going to do the IUI, and I was decidedly unhappy about that. He’s rarely at the Rockville office, which is a blessing to me, because I really can’t stand him one bit. Fortunately, it turned out that Dr. Amazing came down to do the IUI, which was great. Still, I don’t think the odds are particularly high considering how sick S was this morning (he’s sleeping now). I’m fairly certain that I will get sick soon too, since it’s gone through J and S already. Fortunately, it will be too eary for even ME to delude myself into thinking it’s pregnancy-related nausea.

Do you know how sick I am? I’m vaguely considering peeing on a stick since the hCG shot is probably still in me just so I can see those two lines ONCE this cycle. Yeah, I’m a sicko. I’m not going to do it, but I was seriously considering it. Then I realized I’ve done that before, but never gotten a positive pee-stick just from the hCG trigger. Is that odd? Well, whatever. I’m definitely odd, so I am probably asking silly questions.

Either way, my beta is 1/26. Perfect timing to ruin my birthday, which is 1/29. No problem, since, like I said, I’m not particularly counting on a positive result, no pun intended.

IUI Tomorrow

I rarely receive anonymous comments on my blog (for that matter, I don’t get that many comments at all, but I love the ones I do get), but I did get one today. It reads:

I’m thinking good thoughts for you. May your level-headed expectations be rewarded with the best outcome. The conflict with work has got me wondering: What actually is the statistical difference in a situation such as yours between an IUI and well-timed intercourse?

I don’t actually know the answer to this. As far as I can figure, for most problems, IUI doesn’t raise the odds very far above well-timed intercourse. I suppose in cases where there are issues with not having EWCM, the IUI makes a significant difference, since it bypasses the cervix. I know that in normal, healthy, fertile couples, with well-timed intercourse, there is about a 20% chance per cycle of successfully conceiving a child. I also know that the odds of IUI working in any given cyle are about 20% per cycle. Further, this is even true in women with no fertility issues… 20% odds per cycle, period.

So what does IUI actually get me? Well, for one thing, it guarantees the timing. There have been a number of medicated cycles that we’ve had where we wouldn’t have been able to make the timing had we been relying on “the old fashioned way”. Most notably, we almost missed out on the timing this cycle because I didn’t think I’d get to mikveh in time.** In a non-medicated cycle, I simply don’t ovulate, so that doesn’t help either. So there’s that. The guarantee of timing.

Other than that? Not a whole heck of a lot, actually. It just gives a bit of peace of mind, I suppose. I suppose this is one of the reasons I’m not terribly interested in continuing to do IUI for much longer. On the other hand, over three years of trying the old fashioned way, even with Clomid assistance, yielded no results, but 8 months of IUIs yielded a pregnancy, albeit a short-lived one. So I suppose in the long run, IUI has been good to us, comparatively speaking.

That being said, tomorrow is IUI day, and for whatever reason, I wouldn’t want to rely on getting our own timing right, and I’m just as happy that S was able to get his work schedule to accommodate. I’m actually beginning to wonder if we ought to have a, um, you know, sample cryopreserved… just in case we have another conflict, but one he can’t wriggle out of. I dunno. I mean, I suppose there’s always the chance that it will be a moot point, right? After all, it’s theoretically possible that I could get pregnant this time. Right? Stop laughing! Okay, I can’t stop laughing either, but after I peel myself off the floor, I’ll consider shooting my doctor an email to see if it would be a complete waste of time and money to have a back up plan, so to speak.

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**Mikveh is… well, it’s hard to explain. Jewish law mandates that a Jewish couple separate for a minimum of 12 days starting the first day of a woman’s menstrual cycle (well, the first day she sees blood, which may, or may not, correspond with the medical definition of CD1). At the conclusion of their separation, the couple does not resume relations until after the woman has immersed in a ritual bath, called a mikveh. That’s the short story. If you want the longer story, I can point you to some links.

IUI #5

Not having many positive thoughts about this morning's IUI. S woke up wretching this morning, having apparently caught J's stomach virus. Poor thing. We almost called the whole thing off, but S said if I could drive him, he'd do his best. And do his best, he did. Smallest count on record (6.5 million as opposed to last time which was closer to 30 million), but Dr. Amazing said anything over 5 million is great.

When we first arrived at Shady Hell, I thought that Dr. Evil was going to do the IUI, and I was decidedly unhappy about that. He's rarely at the Rockville office, which is a blessing to me, because I really can't stand him one bit. Fortunately, it turned out that Dr. Amazing came down to do the IUI, which was great. Still, I don't think the odds are particularly high considering how sick S was this morning (he's sleeping now). I'm fairly certain that I will get sick soon too, since it's gone through J and S already. Fortunately, it will be too eary for even ME to delude myself into thinking it's pregnancy-related nausea.

Do you know how sick I am? I'm vaguely considering peeing on a stick since the hCG shot is probably still in me just so I can see those two lines ONCE this cycle. Yeah, I'm a sicko. I'm not going to do it, but I was seriously considering it. Then I realized I've done that before, but never gotten a positive pee-stick just from the hCG trigger. Is that odd? Well, whatever. I'm definitely odd, so I am probably asking silly questions.

Either way, my beta is 1/26. Perfect timing to ruin my birthday, which is 1/29. No problem, since, like I said, I'm not particularly counting on a positive result, no pun intended.

IUI #5

Not having many positive thoughts about this morning's IUI. S woke up wretching this morning, having apparently caught J's stomach virus. Poor thing. We almost called the whole thing off, but S said if I could drive him, he'd do his best. And do his best, he did. Smallest count on record (6.5 million as opposed to last time which was closer to 30 million), but Dr. Amazing said anything over 5 million is great.

When we first arrived at Shady Hell, I thought that Dr. Evil was going to do the IUI, and I was decidedly unhappy about that. He's rarely at the Rockville office, which is a blessing to me, because I really can't stand him one bit. Fortunately, it turned out that Dr. Amazing came down to do the IUI, which was great. Still, I don't think the odds are particularly high considering how sick S was this morning (he's sleeping now). I'm fairly certain that I will get sick soon too, since it's gone through J and S already. Fortunately, it will be too eary for even ME to delude myself into thinking it's pregnancy-related nausea.

Do you know how sick I am? I'm vaguely considering peeing on a stick since the hCG shot is probably still in me just so I can see those two lines ONCE this cycle. Yeah, I'm a sicko. I'm not going to do it, but I was seriously considering it. Then I realized I've done that before, but never gotten a positive pee-stick just from the hCG trigger. Is that odd? Well, whatever. I'm definitely odd, so I am probably asking silly questions.

Either way, my beta is 1/26. Perfect timing to ruin my birthday, which is 1/29. No problem, since, like I said, I'm not particularly counting on a positive result, no pun intended.

IUI Tomorrow

I rarely receive anonymous comments on my blog (for that matter, I don't get that many comments at all, but I love the ones I do get), but I did get one today. It reads:

I'm thinking good thoughts for you. May your level-headed expectations be rewarded with the best outcome. The conflict with work has got me wondering: What actually is the statistical difference in a situation such as yours between an IUI and well-timed intercourse?

I don't actually know the answer to this. As far as I can figure, for most problems, IUI doesn't raise the odds very far above well-timed intercourse. I suppose in cases where there are issues with not having EWCM, the IUI makes a significant difference, since it bypasses the cervix. I know that in normal, healthy, fertile couples, with well-timed intercourse, there is about a 20% chance per cycle of successfully conceiving a child. I also know that the odds of IUI working in any given cyle are about 20% per cycle. Further, this is even true in women with no fertility issues… 20% odds per cycle, period.

So what does IUI actually get me? Well, for one thing, it guarantees the timing. There have been a number of medicated cycles that we've had where we wouldn't have been able to make the timing had we been relying on "the old fashioned way". Most notably, we almost missed out on the timing this cycle because I didn't think I'd get to mikveh in time.** In a non-medicated cycle, I simply don't ovulate, so that doesn't help either. So there's that. The guarantee of timing.

Other than that? Not a whole heck of a lot, actually. It just gives a bit of peace of mind, I suppose. I suppose this is one of the reasons I'm not terribly interested in continuing to do IUI for much longer. On the other hand, over three years of trying the old fashioned way, even with Clomid assistance, yielded no results, but 8 months of IUIs yielded a pregnancy, albeit a short-lived one. So I suppose in the long run, IUI has been good to us, comparatively speaking.

That being said, tomorrow is IUI day, and for whatever reason, I wouldn't want to rely on getting our own timing right, and I'm just as happy that S was able to get his work schedule to accommodate. I'm actually beginning to wonder if we ought to have a, um, you know, sample cryopreserved… just in case we have another conflict, but one he can't wriggle out of. I dunno. I mean, I suppose there's always the chance that it will be a moot point, right? After all, it's theoretically possible that I could get pregnant this time. Right? Stop laughing! Okay, I can't stop laughing either, but after I peel myself off the floor, I'll consider shooting my doctor an email to see if it would be a complete waste of time and money to have a back up plan, so to speak.

—————
**Mikveh is… well, it's hard to explain. Jewish law mandates that a Jewish couple separate for a minimum of 12 days starting the first day of a woman's menstrual cycle (well, the first day she sees blood, which may, or may not, correspond with the medical definition of CD1). At the conclusion of their separation, the couple does not resume relations until after the woman has immersed in a ritual bath, called a mikveh. That's the short story. If you want the longer story, I can point you to some links.